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The Cost of Outfitting a Real Life Batman

Does Batman’s backstory seem a bit fishy to you?

Middle-Class Batman
Middle-Class Batman by Mike Mitchell

I don’t mean the part where a rich kid devotes his life to fighting crime in the city’s darkest alleyways instead of pursuing a bacchanalian existence of exotic cars, extravagant parties, and vapid rich chicks. (Although that stretches the imagination, as well…)

I mean the part where his parents–an ultra-wealthy, middle-aged, white couple–get killed in a mugging. Statistically, that’s about as likely as my taking Communion.

In “real” life, Batman probably wouldn’t be able to borrow a Bat-tank from the WayneTech garage, build a cavernous, high-tech lair, or special-order custom codpieces from Taiwan. No, a “real” Batman would probably be some average schmo with a rejection letter from the police academy, anger issues, and a subscription to Guns & Ammo.

In other words, he’d be Batman on a budget: Batguy. And here’s the price list for equipment that he’d keep in his lair, er… garage.


Cowl What would Batman be without the cowl? Well, Batguy, actually. Custom cowls with pointy ears are somewhat difficult to come by. A superhero still needs a mask and head protection, though. How about a black, NOMEX, SWAT-style hood. Looks like a ski mask, but it’s fire-retardant. Nifty. Price: $32 (Find Nomex hoods on Ebay)

Batman Cowl

Utility Belt Batguy probably won’t be toting around laser cutters and tracking devices, but he still needs someplace to put his bottle opener / key chain. How about a Ninja Utility Belt. Price: $14 (Find ninja utility belts on Ebay)

Batman Utility Belt

Body Armor Now here’s something that Batguy really shouldn’t scrimp on. After all, he is painting a big, yellow Bat-target on his chest. A Kevlar bulletproof vest is ultra-lightweight and concealable, and can stop a .357 round. Or a dish thrown by a disgruntled ex-wife. Price: $540 (Find kevlar body armor on Ebay)

Batman Body Armor

Gauntlets Batguy’s gauntlets provide dramatic offensive power and effective defensive, um… power. Unfortunately, a proper pair of custom steel gauntlets can run upwards of several hundred dollars. Batguy will have to settle for a pair of leather gauntlets and brass knuckles. Price: $66 + $15 (Find leather gauntlets on Ebay.)

Black Spandex A superhero on a budget is still a superhero. You can’t forgo the spandex. Batguy could probably find something cheaper than Under Armour, but nothing else will keep him as warm during those chilly midnight stakeouts. Price: $48 (Coldgear Tactical Longsleeve Crew) + $55 (Coldgear Tactical Brushed Leggings) (Find Under Armour Coldgear Tactical clothing on Ebay)

Batman Black Spandex

Boots Batguy needs boots that allow him to be nimble, but have great traction and stomping potential. Except, you know… cheap. And black. This calls for G.I.-type jungle combat boots. Price: $28 (Find jungle combat boots on Ebay)

Batman Boots

Cape Capes tend to get in the way, so if Batguy is going to have one (and he must), then it better be practical. He can fashion one out of fire-retardant polysatin fabric. And if he gets sick of the cape, he can turn it into curtains for the windows on his van. Price: (for a couple of yards of fabric) $15 (Find fire-retardent materials on Ebay)

Batman Cape

Codpiece When all is said and done, Batugy needs something to look forward to if the career in crime-fighting doesn’t work out. A Kevlar groin protector will do the trick. Price: $110 (Find Kevlar groin protectors on Ebay)

Batman Codpiece


Batarangs Batguy barely passed metal shop in high school, so he’s going to need to buy throwing stars by the dozen. He can draw little Bat-symbols on them with a Sharpie. Price: (throwing stars) $25 + (pack of Sharpies) $8 (Find throwing stars on Ebay)


Bat-Rope Slim chance that Batguy could afford a pneumatic grappling device that can winch up to 250 pounds, but he can get Folding Grappling Hook Ninja Gear from Amazon. (Man, that site has everything.) Price: $19 (Find ninja grappling hooks on Ebay)

Batman Grappling Hook

Bat-Computer Batguy can’t very well fight crime if he can’t find it. That’s what handheld police scanners are for. (Added bonus for Batguy: This police scanner doubles as a NASCAR racing scanner. Whatever that means.) Price: $110 (Find handheld police scanners on Ebay)

Batman Police Scanner

Bat-Cuffs Heavy-duty cable zip ties come in packages of 100, and can also be used to cinch up garbage bags after Batguy rakes up his front yard. Price: $11 (Find heavy duty zip ties on Ebay)


Smoke Pellets Sometimes Batguy needs to beat a hasty retreat, and he uses smokescreens to cover his exit… so he keeps a set of smoke pellets in his utility belt. (Who knew that superheros and English chimney repairmen would share tools-of-the-trade?) Price: $12 (Find smoke pellets on Ebay)

Smoke Pellets

Yellow Spray Paint To mark Batguy’s chest with his glorious Bat-symbol of truth, justice, Lay-Z-Boys, and brewskis. Price: $5

Batman Symbol

So Batguy needs $1,104 to get suited up and out-the-door… which doesn’t even account for the few-hundred dollars in recurring monthly costs it’ll take to replace used and damaged equipment. That’ll probably put a bit of a strain on his already-burdened credit cards, but such is the price of justice and kickin’ ass.

* I discovered on Digg that artist Mike Mitchell was inspired by the same idea: Batman-on-a-budget. He graciously agreed to let me post his really sweet rendering of Middle Class Batman here, but you should check out his blog and his online portfolio for other striking geek-art goodness.

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  • nickolai July 19, 2007, 4:09 pm

    awesome stuff, it sounds totally doable — I’ve already got the throwing stars. But that still doesn’t address the need for a sweet bat-ride. I guess something like this would work:


  • Great White Snark July 19, 2007, 6:18 pm

    Funny you should mention… I’m putting together something to address that in the next post in the series. I’m thinking of making this “Real-Life Batman” week.

  • Lin August 27, 2007, 12:33 pm

    Is there ANYWHERE, even if its a place that they have to speacially make them, sell bat-guy forearm guards WITH those kevlar or metal 3 side blades?

    PLZZZ does anyone know anywhere or can anyone make these.

    Price is negtioable :)

  • Great White Snark August 27, 2007, 12:40 pm

    Excellent question about the gauntlet blades. If you find a place, let me know! Otherwise, I think your best bet is probably a high school metal shop.

  • Great White Snark August 27, 2007, 12:40 pm

    P.S. Lin, are you actually building a Batman costume?

  • Lin August 27, 2007, 2:34 pm

    LMAO, I am not building one persay, also Im a girl for everyones info, But I just got an amazing price on a bullet proof vest on ebay, it was 169 worn once.No holes but they gotta sell it as used then. Then i got a awesome win bid on a German Flak Vest which is 2A Fragmentation ( pretty strong) the other vest is III-A+ Thats also without the trauma plate. Not included though :(( Still I also am skilled in Jiu-Jitsu and Kenpo and I am looking for like a whole Jacket Kinda Like bat-guy where its not meant to be bullet proof, but has hard plates if you were going hand to hand like forearm, shouldr then hard stomach foam. Like the LOS Ninjas uniforms in Batman Begins. I was thinking of maybe a snowboarders flak jacket. I saw awesome one @ rockgardn.com Click the full flak jacket. If you only get the vest there is very little protection. And the plates and spine guard ( so you don’t break your spine) are white, but you can be like bat-guy or girl :p and spray paint the whole thing black. Thats an awesome Jacket from rockgardn.com.Any1 know any better?

  • Lin August 27, 2007, 2:52 pm

    One more thing guys, capes might be corny, but have you ever seen the movie 300? With the spartans? The cape is not just for show. As none of us (I think) can fashion bat guys kinda cape they can still be used very effectively. You wipe it in front of their eyes as you attack, stab, slice w/e and it blinds and also distracts them. There are even ways taught how to fight and disarm dangerous foes with just a towel in Martial Arts. So hey, don’t laugh so hard at some guy or girl with a cape, it might be the last thing you do. LOL
    Bye guys

  • Great White Snark August 27, 2007, 5:47 pm

    Some people have a cape to distract and disorient their enemies during an attack. I have a handful of dirt.

  • tarax59 December 30, 2007, 10:51 pm

    I’ve been looking for somebody coughing up ideas like this for ages – congratulations and let us know about any other non-corporate/underground reps of this hardnose lunatic anti-hero of midnight. I crave alternatives to the DC/WB-controlled hypermanic hardsell – I have a B&W A5 trashcan edition of some Spanish artists from 1991, with a pen drawing of a drunken Alfred Pennyworth in a very loose fitting tatty costume, hanging out on a window ledge, cursing Bruce and holding a big gun.

    Your breakdown of this middle class batguy’s uniform/costume requirements is well thought thru – is it OK if I post some suggestions – Lin’s observation about the possiblities of the cape as a deadly weapon are excellent, but a budget batguy car/bike must have enclosed mud guards – remember Isadora Duncan and her scarf. And I haven’t seen many asphalt streets/linoleum floors with convenient piles of dirt.

  • tarax59 January 2, 2008, 10:21 pm

    Also – check out the other Bat Fan –


  • lin January 11, 2008, 3:54 pm

    i want batman begins vambraces. No one seems talented enough to make real life ones though :(

  • lin January 11, 2008, 4:01 pm

    i am very much into wing chun/jeet kune do martial arts. So i like how realistic Batman Begins was compared to the last ummm 4? Tiger style, panther fist, every MA move in that movie is VERY accurate. I am talking about the styles used where Christian Bale, in the beginning, attacks Liam Neeson. They are very accurate.

    The League of Shadows Uniforms are very armored and also light enough to still use Martial Arts. I wish there were real life uniforms like this, not just costumes.

    But the more you rely on something else to protect you, the more you lose your real instinct and skill so there must be a balance.

    Kinda deep????? LOL

    keep posting ppl i love this site

  • tarax59 January 13, 2008, 10:43 pm

    I don’t get it, what is a “vambrace”? Does LOL stand for ‘Lonely Old Lady”? The MA Consultants were great on the BB movie (did you see the DVD extras), of course now I’m anticipating great things in new TDK, due to HL’s psycho performance of TJ… I’m not expecting a lot of defensive body armour under the clown suit tho’.

    Nolan’s BB shifted the dynamics as radically as Tim Burton did in 1989, trying to keep pace with Frank Miller’s comic book writing – Michael Keaton really wasn’t slapstick when it was released, but those ummm 4 movies really dated a lot. Interesting that both (old and new) films were inspired by FM’s dark work.

    Enough with the acronyms. The accurate moves used by Bruce Wayne when dealing with his mentor Henri Ducard (and disciples) are a product of his strict induction into the League of Shadows, after which Bruce returns to the old hometown and changes forever, releasing his suppressed rage and developing his own personal, more brutal, wild card free-form style.

    Also, it’s weird seeing Bruce Wayne impersonate Bob Dylan lately..? Now what is a vambrace anyway – maybe I know somebody with the skills?

  • SciFreak January 23, 2008, 3:58 am

    Tarax: As far as I know, vambraces are those pieces of armor, usually metal or hard leather, that cover one’s forearm. In BB, these would be his distinctive scalloped armguards that he uses to great effect in many of his fights. Gauntlets are heavy gloves that extend past the wrist to provide some protection for the forearm, similar to but distinct from vambraces.

  • SciFreak January 23, 2008, 4:04 am

    Excellent, interesting article btw. Sorry this didn’t make my first post, I got carried away in lecture mode. ;) Hope to read more soon!

  • Nick February 1, 2008, 10:53 am

    TY scifreak. Vambraces are the traditional term for forearms guards. Just like Greaves are shin guards, but when used in those terms, it means more for combat as opposed to sports.

  • lin February 4, 2008, 8:28 am

    And LOL stands for Laugh out loud or Lots of laughter. Jeez what a noob.

  • tarax59 February 9, 2008, 11:31 pm

    What noob? That’s a little cruel – another acronym perhaps..? Not Old, Only Bent, or Never Offend Obsessive Batfan?

    Anyway, if you want some prop bat-vambraces, it wouldn’t be too hard to make some kind of pattern and have them sand cast in aluminium – of course, any ninja could put a katana thru them like butter. If you’re looking for something that seriously cuts the mustard, they should be forged and annealed (quenching in oil and water to produce harder steel) by a blacksmith.

    Rather than have solid steel covering both forearms, perhaps a defensive ridge (running from elbow to wrist, creating the distinctive scalloped edge of which you speak) could be worked into some lighter material, like tooled black leather – in the movie, Bat’s vambraces look like a mix of materials, don’t they?

  • JohnF March 7, 2008, 8:21 pm

    Check this out http://approvedgasmasks.com/riot-control.htm

    For the glove and forearms protection, i found these. http://approvedgasmasks.com/gloves-dominator.htm

    As for the training,there is tactical training center and paramilitary facility that offer training and instruction in bounty hunting, private investigation, close protection and munch more, all those course are open to the public. Heck for 2000$ you can go study kung fu in a shaolin temple or muay thai in Thailand for several months under great masters. There is also Ninjutsu and Krav maga training camp or seminar, Commando Krav maga is probably the best. http://www.commandokravmaga.com/html/index.html

    for bodybuilding ( http://www.nutrex.com/)
    so yes, I guess a budget Batman could exist.

    Cost of the training, approx: 5000$ or less

  • tarax59 March 8, 2008, 4:35 pm

    Nice gauntlets on that first link JohnF, and I wish I could go to Thailand for a Muay Tai – the gauntlets are fine, but the question is in regard to vambraces with the signature scalloped ridges that scream, “I am The Batman!”

    btw: your link to the steroid sales loop is just ugly… “stimulant” addicted musclemen that own home gym equipment can’t be middle class, can they? I would hope that a real life Bruce Wayne would simply be a well-trained, well-equipped “average guy” who can actually fit thru a doorway.

  • JohnF March 8, 2008, 6:19 pm

    Nutrex doesn’t sale steroid. Steroid are illegal in most country, They sale nutritional supplement like protein and all, they might sale testosterone and some weard stuff but no steroids. Protein shake are not that expensive and are a must for every bodybuilder.
    Starting from scratch, a middle class man with a reasonable budget could gain 30 to 40 pounds of solid muscle in 6 to 8 months. ”With an intensive workout routine and a good diet of course”
    My point was not to promote this compagny or anything, It was simply to show that it was possible for an average joe to beef up and learn to fight rapidly and under a strict budget.

    I realy like the costume from batman no.666.

    A trench coat made or lined with kevlar and/or nomex fabric would be cool and could double as some sort of cape like in this comic

    As for the Muay thai training camp you asked:

    And while i’m here, Check this out

  • Frank March 8, 2008, 7:14 pm

    Nice but i don’t like the trench coat.

    An intense muay thai training camp in thailand will get someone strong ripped and in shape, no need for bodybuilding…. Beside becoming a powerhouse would give you great strenght but at the cost of you’r agility and speed. I would recomend mixed martial art and Parcour. (freerun)

    But you forgot that Batman use fear as main weapon, all the stuff you guy’s mentioned are great but all those gear and stuff would make someone look like a wannabe SWAT or a mall ninja. Batman primary weapon is fear.
    That’s why in real life a costume like this would work better http://hq.cosmo.com.br/images/hqcoisa/h0085_stanlee_bat_batman.jpg
    From Stan Lee’s just imagine Batman. that’s a scary costume that would work on the street.

    We don’t want a guy dressed as a swat patrolling the street playing vigilante. We want a creature of the night prowling rooftop looking for mugger and other criminal, because that’s what batman is in his universe.
    Full site http://hq.cosmo.com.br/textos/hqcoisa/h0085_stanlixo.htm


    According to the comic the costume is lined with kevlar, padded, the cape glide and the mask got night vision and enhanced hearing.

  • Laserbolt April 12, 2008, 11:58 am

    Thats seems about right, price-wise. I know where you can get stuff that a Real-World Bat-Dude would drool over, you can find all sorta of neat little things on the Net regarding that sorta stuff.

    For example:

    Batsuits/Armor: http://d3olab.com/

    Boots: http://www.kenguru.de/Bilder/Kangaroo_boots_pics/kangaroo_boots_pics.html

    Bracers: http://www.darkknightarmoury.com

    Utility Belts: http://cheaperthandirt.com
    or just go to a Army/Navy Surplus store and pick up a Web belt,and compass utility pouches.

    Any more stuff you might use, drop me a line, and no i’m not out to become the Dark Knight, i’m just interested in the stuff thats all.

    Peace out

  • batman May 5, 2008, 8:35 pm

    Ok no offence… but this has to be the worst stuff I have ever seen… First of all, batarangs look like bats… not ninja stars, why would you need yellow spray paint? you can’t get a good paint job with that.. you would need to use a paint gun like they use on cars… next… the bat-cuffs? give me a break… you can buy those plastic things anywhere for like $5 for about 1000… SWAT uses them because they can not carry around that many handcuffs…. and they are not even that.. they look like hang cuffs made of plastic.. Next your bat-computer….oh wow.. where do i start there.. Nice “nascar” symbol.. looks more like a walkie talkie or a phone. The only thing on here that is half decent is the body armor and the grappling hook, and the boots. The picture you have there is unbeleivably stupid as well as the website. you could make a much far better batman suit for cheaper… last thing.. Smoke pellets?.. you can make those soo easy with household iteams.. look online… or if you were any good with chemistry you can figure it out

  • tarax59 May 5, 2008, 9:15 pm

    Dear Bruce (aka batman),

    Clearly, you need to get into the whole spirit of the thing – this is a list of goodies for crime fighters on a tight budget. I’m sure the Warner Bros royalties are rolling in, so how many big black cars do you have in your underground garage now?

    Since you were born with a silver spoon in your mouth and a degree in chemistry up your butt-ler – you must get Alfred to hand sculpt all the batarangs you need. The rest of us wanna-be stupor-heroes are pinching pennies to make ends meet, so improve your attitude, be a little more constructive, and smile you lazy little rich boy – or I’ll make you smile like you never smiled before.

  • shortish May 6, 2008, 5:47 pm

    Not really sure how cheap these things are, but I found this website that has links to certain “Bat-Gadgets.”


    You can find ninja utility belts for as low as $10.

    And I also found this other link that talks about ways to create your own costume at:


    As far as the vehicle is concerned, there are always SWAT Armored Rescue Vehicles. They run aout $250,000.00, but it’s always nice to dream, right? A link to that is right here:


    Hope this helps!

  • shortish May 6, 2008, 5:51 pm

    As far as the suit is concerned, you could always buy a SCUBA-diving outfit, or a military wetsuit and put body armor over it.

  • shortish May 6, 2008, 6:00 pm

    Wait. I now realize my second link to my first post is for this website. So, sorry about that. How did I not notice that before? But the others are hopefully helpful.

  • thecorrector May 7, 2008, 5:27 am

    Okay, Shortish: Your first link is wrong, too. You put an extra slash at the end. The amended link is as follows:


    It’s actually pretty cool. They have through the wall stethoscopes, pocket cutting torches, even a grappling hook and line launcher.

    As for the car, well, yes $250,000.00 is a little out of most people’s reach, but the car still looks pretty cool.

  • tarax59 May 7, 2008, 5:20 pm

    In a current Comic Shop News (#1089) there is mentioned a line of DC Direct (coming in December) merchandise, I quote… “the latest addition to the JLA Trophy Room: Life-sized, fully functioning Bat-Cuffs – the same size as regulation police handcuffs! The JLA Trophy Room Bat-Cuffs Prop Replicas unlock with a special bat-shaped key, fold in half for easy transport, and can be displayed on the included stand.”

    Full functioning? Start saving your Xmas dollars Bat boys and girls.

  • tarax59 May 7, 2008, 5:27 pm

    Also, great links shortish, and thank you corrector.

    A hero could get really weighed down with all that stuff, (there’s no utility belt big enough to carry that grapple launcher cannon – and if you’ve ever tried to walk in a dry wet-suit you’d know that’s not a really practical idea. There’s a lot of chaffing even before you start to sweat, and the idea of a wet suit is to keep you warm in cold water – without a lot of cold seawater around you, you get to perspire a lot, really fast – and I doubt gluing body armour onto it would make the experience any more pleasant.

  • thecorrector May 8, 2008, 7:52 am

    I found ninja gauntlets on ebay:


    I hope I got that right. If not, just go to ebay.com and type in “Ninja Gauntlets.”

  • tarax59 May 8, 2008, 6:56 pm

    To: the Corrector
    Excellent – what a find!

    Shame we can’t mount a picture of that item here. Lin & Great White Snark might be interested. These look great and really answer all the requirements. I wonder what they’re made out of?

    At least they’re black.

  • thecorrector May 9, 2008, 1:10 pm

    According to their website, thebronzearmore.com, they deal with movie props, or something like that.

    There isn’t a direct ink to their Batman section, but just go to:


    click on the middle icon,The 86th Floor, then click on the Batman link.

    Not really sure if you can buy directly of the site, though.

  • thecorrector May 9, 2008, 2:08 pm

    Just found out: Yes, you can. Via PayPal.

  • tarax59 May 9, 2008, 6:05 pm

    Dear Corrector and Shortish,

    Excellent information re; my new disguise – I wonder if that’s a licensed product? It would be a joke on Bruce (aka batman) if it isn’t, wouldn’t it. Why is he so serious?

    Bronze Armoury is where it’s at. I have to get me some of that. I wonder if they come in purple?

    By the way, I just love PayPal. Makes me smile every time I hear the name – I want one too. My own little pay pal – she could come over for a pay date any time.

  • thecorrector May 11, 2008, 11:23 am

    I found another website with Batman Begins props.


    It’s a little bit pricier than The Bronze Armory, but they have more things.

  • thecorrector June 17, 2008, 2:33 pm

    And I found a site today that tells you where to get high-tech things, like night vision goggles, eavesdropping equipment, laser optics, etc.


  • thecorrector June 17, 2008, 2:36 pm

    I mean, judging by the date at the top of the page, it’s a little old (01/01/92). But it’s worth a shot, right?

  • Rayzor July 11, 2008, 11:59 am

    I’d like to see some stuff on real life Batman Beyond. It’s not by any means cheap but some of it’s doable already. You just need to put this:


    Into this:


  • Tim September 8, 2008, 2:57 pm


  • Mick September 25, 2008, 3:36 am

    Another thing you forgot to add in the monthly expenses tally: hospital bills. Not everyone can afford a faithful retainer to sew up the lesser stuff and rely on being friends with Leslie Thompkins for the life-threating wounds one would accrue as a vigilante. Batman’s got training, and he still needs to get patched up nightly – Batguy doesn’t stand a chance.

  • R3AP3R_78 January 12, 2009, 8:24 am

    TO LIN: to quote you earlier on in the thread..
    “and I am looking for like a whole Jacket Kinda Like bat-guy where its not meant to be bullet proof, but has hard plates if you were going hand to hand like forearm, shouldr then hard stomach foam. Like the LOS Ninjas uniforms in Batman Begins”

    Lin, I have been thinking the same things. I have been looking at buying a motocross pressure suit (search ebay.com for “bear paw body armour”) This is the best and most ergonomic i’ve seen. Then my theory is to stitch kevlar/aramis fabric onto the outside of the jacket, mainly outer hips and side of ribs, and the inside of the forearma and biceps. (you can also buy this in small sheets through ebay!) Now once you have the kevlar on the less exposed parts of the jacket (to protect arteries and veins from being slashed), and the outer is protected from the high density (HARD) Poly armour, I am then going to fit the pressure suit onto a maniquine similar size to myself and make permanent adjustments in fitment. Then, here is the sweetest part… using a spraygun, air or electric, apply a liquid rubber compound. I have seen it out there, but need to find it again. Then have to apply an even spray film of about 4mm over the entire suit. you will have to wait about 4 hrs for it to mostly cure before applying another 4 or 5 coats. You want the final thickness to be around 15-20mm, the thicker the better. there are rubber liquids that when cured will give an elongation threshold of 450%+ .. so you will still be very flexible. These rubber compounds are already usually abrassion resistant when cured and also resist heat and chemicals/acids, and most mediocre cuts (careless slashes) but your kevlar on the (sandwhiched inside between the suit and rubber outer) so all is good. The final step is to spary it matt black so you don’t profile much or emit shine. You will need to use a latex spray paint, as opposed to an acrylic like that used on cars.. you need latex spray paint. otherwise it won’t adhere to the rubber membrane properly. I’ve given this alot of thought, and when i get my revenue together I am going to start assembly of what will be a pretty efficient combat/assult armour.. much like the dark knight’s. Now.. just gotta work on the leg stuff and the head protection. I don’t want to look like batman at all, but I believe his armour setup is very effective and I am going to try and mimmic that as much as possible so it will do the job.. if you catch my drift.. wink wink.
    Much like you Lin, I have studied Wing chun, Muay Thai, Ninjustu, Jujitsu, and Tae Kwon Do. About 12 years worth. Am currently learning Iaido. A long time ago I had a bodyguarding and security business.. (contracting), and was lucky enough to have attended and completed many classes on advanced knife defence and weapons disarmament. But these are mainly based on bushido techniques. which is practicaly iaido and jujitsu.. anyway.. Thought I’d share that jacket idea with you.. it will be flexible and not as cumbersome as a ‘flak’ jacket.. the trick is.. [if you intend on applying it the same way as me].. is to avoid any type of ordinance or munitions attack by essentially out-manouvering your opponent/assailant and bringing then into 1st or 2nd circle where you can use take downs and closing techniques. this is where you have the advantage. a bullet proof vest won’t help you if you are on the offensive. If you take a 9mm round at 30 mtrs its still going to push the kevlar 2-3 inches into your body and potentially break ribs and cause blunt force trauma.. u will be rendered incapacitated for just enough time for your assalaint to close in and finish you.. only option is surprise and it has to be in within the 1st – 3rd circle engagement parimetre.. thats about all i have to offer.. if you want to talk more about it.. reply to my email johnmkane78@yahoo.com.au. Please be aware guys, that this is a personal invite to Lin in regards to her ligitimate jaket idea, and I will be dubious about answering any emails from others. Thank you. Be safe. SK

  • Chriskingmaker January 22, 2009, 6:37 pm

    Go to ebay look up batman gauntlets and change the sort from highest priced items show first and you will find crafted batman gauntlets. Steel and leather!!!

    Good luck guys.

  • Laserbolt August 2, 2009, 11:55 am

    I think someone is reading minds of all Bat-wanna bes everywhere. With a few modifications, you could really kick butt with something like this:


  • R3AP3R_78 August 6, 2009, 3:55 pm

    …. of course, all this ‘batman suit talk’ is purely academic. Hypothetical…. LOL…. right?
    hahaha… I mean, my idea originally came from trying to make a motorcycle jacket that prevent object intrusion during a crash, as most motorcycle gear doesn’t really prevent things from piercing the torso… whats the point of surviving the initial impact, if the fence you hit afterwards is what goes through your spleen? Right?…

    @ Lin: your email address is faulty, so if by some chance you manage to read this, try again, but with a new address, cheers!

  • Laserbolt August 8, 2009, 7:38 am

    You gotta point there R3AP3R, most motorcycle armor, even the high quality kind won’t protect against major punctures. That’s why a suit such as that would have to be modified with lightweight bullet-resistant plates, similar to what the new fangled bullet-proof vests have. The plates need to be light, due to the weight factor and yet strong enough to deflect the highest caliber bullets that are out there. It’s a toss up though, Realistically speaking you need to find a balance between weight and protection so you don’t wind up weighing yourself down too much if you find yourself in a combat situation.

    As for me, I’d go with a moderate armored suit, light enough to jump around in, while giving me just the right amount of protection against any funny stuff I’d run into.

    Modifications are our friends!! LOL

  • David September 23, 2009, 2:41 pm

    Thanks for including The Brass Knuckles Company in your inventory line up.

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  • Stan February 26, 2010, 3:20 pm

    You got the glove part wrong, you can find guantlets with scalloped fins at true swords.com and as well as gloves with hardened tops for fighting. Really cheap too. You’d just have use the scallops to make a mold and place a stronger metal in. And the boots, if someone did make working suit, they wouldn’t use boots with laces, the laces can get caught on something and kill you. And finally a mugging can happen to anyone, even an unlikely group such as the ‘social elite’. And from your earlier description, all he’d really need is the vest, a pair boots, the gloves and gauntlets and he could buy ‘batman’ costume, and also buy description, he’d probably use a gun instead shuriken, throwing knives, mace, knightstick, etc.

  • Laserbolt February 27, 2010, 10:50 pm

    Houston, we have a problem…

    A Batman costume would be a really bad choice, as the Dark Knight is one of the most universal and well known and RECOGNIZED figures in modern pop/tv and movie culture. The Feds wouldn’t have a problem tracking him down and nailing him if they got a good bead on him. Suspect Description: Male, 6ft tall, wearing a BATMAN SUIT.

    The actual Bat-suit is unneeded, for real-world application, the best thing to remember is this…KISS. Kiss stands for Keep It Simple Stupid. Going around in a suit that’s so recognizable as Batman’s will only get you caught faster and maybe even killed, by law enforcement at least. Unless you really, really know what the hell your doing, the best method to go with this is underground. A dark, SWAT-type uniform modified enough to tackle worst-case scenerios. Keep it all dark so you can blend in the shadows easier and using hit and run methods might be your best bet. And yeah, forget the laces on your boots, they WILL get you messed up in the long run. Boots should be tactical and stealthy.

    A gun you say? Bad idea my friend. Forensics can trace powder residue, bullets, bullet fragments, and of course there’s blood and body evidence too if the perp your trying to nail winds up dead. I don’t think you would want that hanging around for them to find. Your best bet would be a beanbag/rubber bullet shooter, a pepperball launcher, or a Taser. Some Handcuff ties would come in handy just in case. Suit-wise though, a Utility Belt and Forearm Gauntlets (think Batman Begins, Dark Knight) would be useful too, if not to add a certain unique touch.

  • Jack March 14, 2010, 6:38 pm

    What about pants????

  • Laserbolt March 15, 2010, 2:57 pm

    Pants? If you want my opinion, they’d have to be the armored type, I personally would go for some Nomex style long johns coupled with some armored motocross-type pants, black of course. You would want them to be ventilated enough so you won’t bake your ass off while armored enough to protect you from gunshots, knife slashes, and any other nasty little things you might encounter.

    You want some places to get this stuff, give me a holla.

  • Henrique April 24, 2010, 8:01 am

    You forget the years and money required in martial arts training and bodybuilding, supplements, diets

  • Laserbolt April 25, 2010, 2:29 pm

    Henrique, the training, bodybuilding, supplements and a rigorous diet needed for such actions would also have to be included. You can’t forget that of course. But then again the sharpest weapon in one’s arsenal isn’t a weapon, it’s his/her tactics and technique.

  • devmister May 2, 2010, 4:26 pm

    how would you go about creating robin’s armor perferabally a suit like damian wayne’s

  • devmister May 5, 2010, 4:11 pm

    a good utilitarian batman suit would probably look like this

  • Laserbolt May 6, 2010, 6:09 pm

    Yup. That’s the Ultimate’s Batsuit. Utilitarian and definitely kick-ass. I’d love to see the real-world specs on that thing.

  • devmister May 7, 2010, 7:58 pm

    hey laserbolt you have some pretty good comments how would you go about creating a robin costume

  • Laserbolt May 7, 2010, 8:28 pm

    Thanks Dev. Back at ya. In my opinion, I’d create Robin’s costume/uniform the same way as Bats. I myself would use a different color makeup though. The original Robin suit stands out so badly that in the real world, you’d make yourself a way to easy target, not to mention maybe get ya laughed at a bit. (One would think.) A real-world Nomex-Kevlar bi-weave armored bodysuit, custom tailored of course with some sort of armored form-fitted jacket or vest. I’d use armored gloves with multiple pockets to carry stuff in. Add a standard compliment Utility Belt filled with a night-time’s worth of crime-fighting odds and ends. For footwear, I’d go with armored combat boots or some sort of heavy styled Ninja tabi boots for stealth and flexibility. The crazy thing is all of this is actually available now, all it would take is finding it and putting it all together.

  • devmister May 7, 2010, 9:22 pm

    thanks for the reply and (good opinion on how the suit would be made)about the vambraces you can get armore vambraces with fins for like 20 bucks on amazon http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001I17LCK/ref=pd_lpo_k2_dp_sr_1?pf_rd_p=486539851&pf_rd_s=lpo-top-stripe-1&pf_rd_t=201&pf_rd_i=B0009PGVG8&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=0PB43S41T83VPGWNE9XS

  • devmister May 7, 2010, 9:57 pm

    if you were a real life batman cape or no cape

  • devmister May 7, 2010, 10:02 pm

    there’s a great site on different variations ofthe batman costume created by fans its actually pretty cool

  • Laserbolt May 8, 2010, 8:25 am

    Ah yes, the all to familiar question of the Cape.

    If I recall, the reason Bruce selected the Bat theme was to strike fear in the criminal psychological element and like a bat, be aesthetically able to blend in and disappear into certain surroundings. Here’s my 2 cents on the issue.

    Unless you know how to USE one both offensively and defensively, a cape won’t do squat for you. It would get in the way. You want to blend into your surroundings not have something you could possibly TRIP OVER or interfere with any fighting techniques that you may implore. The cape itself would have to be custom made of the right materials (The basic Kevlar-Nomex weave comes directly to mind.) The problem is…this is the real world and a cape won’t really give you the added protection from gunfire unless you incorporate some sort of flexible armor into it. Then you have to add the weight factor which would no doubt slow you down.

    As for me, I’d use one. not because I know how ( I actually do) but their are certain advantages to having one should the need actually arise. And yeah…it looks pretty dam cool too. :-)

  • Laserbolt May 8, 2010, 8:26 am

    Dev, Those Batsuit designs really kick ASS! They give me some really good ideas on making a real-world batsuit…and on a budget too.

    More to come.

  • devmister May 8, 2010, 11:20 am

    thanks. actually their fan art that was created as what dick graysons batsuit might look like.

  • devmister May 8, 2010, 11:27 am

    i see how this is cool to talk about but whats the point if were not going to go out and actually fight crime

  • batman101 May 9, 2010, 8:30 am

    well i know that im trying to build an aresnal of equipment so that i can fight the scum in my home town, but thats just me

  • Laserbolt May 10, 2010, 3:15 pm

    @Dev: If you plan on fighting crime as the Dark Knight…good luck. I might suggest a nice comfortable straight-jacket for ya.

    @Batman101: #1. Might wanna try a famous invention…its called SpellCheck :-)

    Arsenal? I hope your a billionaire my friend, because that’s what it would take to do something like this in the real world. However, if one was actually serious about doing something like this, my advice…start with the one thing you are gonna use to do it…a Battle-suit/Batsuit. Remember DO NOT use the Batman theme..Bats is the most well-known and recognizable figures ever. Be realistic. I myself have a lot of knowledge of how to do something like this realistically, but I don’t have the time or dedication for such a feat. (which sucks LOL) If you want serious advice on this, I can lead to a few on here who do such a thing. They are professionals…of sorts. Either that or just become a cop or a Fed when ya come of age.

  • devmister May 10, 2010, 3:43 pm

    i not saying i want to go out and fight crime.but who dosent want to be a superhero

  • Laserbolt May 10, 2010, 4:03 pm

    Good call Dev. On that I will definitely agree with you. it’s every person’s dream at one point or another to become a Superhero and try to change the world.

    Who knows…maybe it could realistically happen one day.

  • devmister May 10, 2010, 4:53 pm

    ya,laserbolt which nonpowered superhero would you be

  • R3AP3R_78 May 10, 2010, 7:40 pm

    @ Laserbolt….

    and anyone else who has a brain… =P

    It has occured to me that we are heading for a modern “dark age”. Think about it. You ask someone under the age of 30 who Napoleon Bonaparte was and they shrug their shoulders and look blankly at you. It’s obvious, with all these BS reality shows and Iphones and I-this and I-that… that all the human race is interested in now is being entertained. No-one wants to learn anymore. We want to be entertained, and we want it yesterday. No-one is prepared to work towards something, let-alone self-development and human potential. The greatest weapon one possesses is their BRAIN!
    I mean, come on people… we sit in our houses watching people sitting in their houses [big brother]. Then there’s actually the big brother complex itself.. there’s megaphones and cameras on the streets in UK.. someone drops a piece of rubbish and they have a security monitor telling them to pick it up over the loud speaker!
    Read George Orwell’s “1984” or even better… watch the movie [dvd] [if you don’t read.. like so many others out there]… but it’s already happening in some places around the world. North Korea is a prime example.
    But, I kid you not guys, we are heading for a social meltdown. We live in a time where enforcement agencies use Tasers as compliance weapons instead of self-defense weapons. The not-to-far-away reality is, that we may indeed be headed towards a period of civil unrest. If this occurs, we may have no option but to convert back to the old methodology of “vigilanty groups” that were responsible for protecting villagers back in the middle ages.

    Having said that, if I had to answer Dev’s hypothetical question… I’d probably style myself off the Punisher, but with batman type armored suit. Off course. One cannot be a vigilanty in todays society without becoming an outlaw. That’s the catch 22 so to speak. Once you take the law into your own hands…. you can kiss your freedom goodbye. That’s the problem with today… yes, sure, you can defend yourself with “reasonable proportion to the threat”… [legal stuff] but, you can’t go out kicking peoples asses because they’re bad. That’s when you get the whole “you can’t take the law into your own hands” BS. Well, that’s great… yeah, we have ‘bloods’ and ‘crips’ and ‘gangbangers’ running around bashing and killing people for their wallets, phones, and shoes, but the cops can’t touch em because most of them are underage. All that’s needed is to make an example of the ringleaders so that the younger ones that follow are so scared they no longer desire to be involved in crime.
    From a tactical standpoint, there is no way to realistically fight everyone, so this psychological intimidation is the only tactic I can think of that would actually yeild results. The main problem is, that the number of serious organised criminals far outways the number of enforcement people, so there will always be crims who get away with stuff, unless of course, the people that fight injustice are greater than those that impose injustice.

    Needless to say of course… THIS IS ALL JUST HYPOTHETICAL! A lesson in human sociology maybe? hahaha
    Again.. I cannot stress enough, how much this crimefighting talk is purely hypothetical. Although, my comments on social collapse I feel are rather realistic and based on educated judgements.

  • devmister May 10, 2010, 8:23 pm

    exellent comment,but you were just restating a textbook, i’m asking what your personal standpoint on vigilantism (superheroes) in todays society

  • R3AP3R_78 May 10, 2010, 9:09 pm

    @ Dev…
    thank you… but, no mate, I must deny that my comment was not from any textbook… which textbook would actually exist that could comment on such things? Therefore, one must deducted that all that I have said above, is indeed already my own personal standpoint.
    Having worked in the security industry for many years, and also having been activly involved in both combative arts and philosophy for over 12 years… this is in fact my standpoint. No textbook exists from which I could make such a comment as I have above. Years ago, there existed an orgainsed vigilante group called the “guardian angels”, and from time to time, they used to do the rounds on the streets that I worked on, [nightclub door-work], they used to patrol the trains late at night because nthere was no security and no cops, and people were getting bashed and mugged. Then the gov’mnt outlawed them, said they were a vigilante group, even though they were actually a “not-for-profit” security volunteers. They got kicked out, and now, all we have is cameras everywhere… so, you get mugged, bashed, raped, whatever.. and all they do now is look at the video footage afterwards and then TRY to find the culprits/s…. it’s rubbish.
    My standpoint on vigilantism is to found in my comment about the groups that existed during the middle ages. This was also not unlike what sherrifs did in the 1800-1900’s when they made normal townfolk into deputies.
    By definition, really, if I was walking down the street and I saw someone trying to rape a woman and I stepped in and defended her, this would be an act of vigilantism… but, in the eyes of the law, because someone was in direct physical danger, as a citizen, I have the law on my side if I defend her with reasonable and proportinate force to the threat. If I use too much force… more than required.. than I can get done by the law for being excesive. In her eyes, I’m a good samaritan, in the eyes of the law, I become the agressor by using excessive force…. when does it stop being neccessary, and become “excessive”? I once hit a guy with a bar stool. He was 6’5″ easy, and 140kg+… I’m 5’9″ and 80kg… sure, I could have tried all sorts of stuff like jujitsu grapples and the like, but, in reality, he had a chick up against the wall with his hand around her throat and her knickers in his other hand… at that size and in the dire immediate threat that the lady was in, I saw the only reasonable and proportionate response was to put him down as quick as possible. Hence the bar stool.

    No thanks to mass media and movies… it is now widely excepted that a vigilante is often confused with an organised crimefighter that is not the appointed law enforcement agencies….
    when in reality, a vigilante is anyone who, either through being a visual [or physical] deterant, stops or negates the act of injustice upon innocent civillians.
    Technically speaking, even if you were dressed like the punisher, but had no weapons so to speak of, it would be completely legal. You could have a 1000 people dressed like batman/punisher etc and as long as they weren’t carrying any weapons, they would be free to walk around as they pleased, and in effect hopefully deter criminals from performing acts of violence.
    However, if a citizen/civillian witnesses someone purpetrating an indictable offence [punishable by imprisonment] eg. B & E, assult and battery, rape, stealing etc, you have the right to attempt to make a citizens arrest or defend whoever neccessary with reasonable and proportiante force.
    The legal rammifications for any type of action can be huge if it is not approached in the correct manner. But, I feel there is a need for good samaritan groups to be on the streets. Sure, A single good samaritan often gets his ass kicked [as you sometimes read in the paper] but if you had a group of 10 rock up on the train platform, any potential mugger would think twice, purely from the visual presence of these ‘good samaritans’ LOL

    Anyway, that’s my spheel….

  • batman101 May 11, 2010, 7:29 am


    you dont have to be a cock bout things its only a spelling mistake.

  • Laserbolt May 14, 2010, 9:42 pm

    Relax Batman101…i was just yanking your chain a bit.

    @Dev. More likely Id go with Bat’s M.O. Hiding in the shadows and rooftops, being ninja-like. It’s more my style. Of course, give me an Iron Man type suit and i’d be in hog heaven LOL

  • devmister May 18, 2010, 7:25 pm

    im actually working on a design to make the ultimate ironman suit the prototype 1 ironman suit that teenage tony made

  • Laserbolt May 19, 2010, 2:56 pm

    Nice. Got any blueprints or specs of it yet? I wouldn’t mind checking some out.

  • devmister May 19, 2010, 4:35 pm

    its actually very simple its armored plating joined by a “skeleton”, in the comic book electricity was constantley sent through the armor plating, unfortunetley im more of a mechanic then a electronics experts but ill figure something out

  • Simeon May 29, 2010, 6:35 am

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  • Original Laserbolt May 31, 2010, 12:49 pm

    Or better yet Simeon, how about one of these?


    You can get some metal and cut out the Batarangs yourself. I personally would rather use a throw able stun-disc or Bola wire snares, mainly cuz they are less lethal and easy to both make and use.