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	<title>Comments on: The Cost of Outfitting a Real Life Batman</title>
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		<title>By: Original Laserbolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Original Laserbolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 May 2010 19:49:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Or better yet Simeon, how about one of these?

http://www.plasmacam.com/indexfla.php

You can get some metal and cut out the Batarangs yourself. I personally would rather use a throw able stun-disc or Bola wire snares, mainly cuz they are less lethal and easy to both make and use.</description>
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<p>You can get some metal and cut out the Batarangs yourself. I personally would rather use a throw able stun-disc or Bola wire snares, mainly cuz they are less lethal and easy to both make and use.</p>
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		<title>By: Simeon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Simeon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 May 2010 13:35:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>About the Batarangs i recommend True tiger empire.com.They have cheap prives and real steal and stainless batarangs sharp like shuriken.And they return.They come with a leather container.3 batarangs plus leather container 9 bucks</description>
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		<title>By: devmister</title>
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		<dc:creator>devmister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 23:35:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>its actually very simple its armored plating joined by a &quot;skeleton&quot;, in the comic book electricity was constantley sent through the armor plating, unfortunetley im more of a mechanic then a electronics experts but ill figure something out</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>its actually very simple its armored plating joined by a &#8220;skeleton&#8221;, in the comic book electricity was constantley sent through the armor plating, unfortunetley im more of a mechanic then a electronics experts but ill figure something out</p>
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		<title>By: Laserbolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laserbolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 21:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice. Got any blueprints or specs of it yet? I wouldn&#039;t mind checking some out.</description>
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		<title>By: devmister</title>
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		<dc:creator>devmister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 02:25:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>im actually working on a design to make the ultimate ironman suit the prototype 1 ironman suit that teenage tony made</description>
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		<title>By: Laserbolt</title>
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		<dc:creator>Laserbolt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 04:42:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Relax Batman101...i was just yanking your chain a bit.

@Dev. More likely Id go with Bat&#039;s M.O. Hiding in the shadows and rooftops, being ninja-like. It&#039;s more my style. Of course, give me an Iron Man type suit and i&#039;d be in hog heaven LOL</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Relax Batman101&#8230;i was just yanking your chain a bit.</p>
<p>@Dev. More likely Id go with Bat&#8217;s M.O. Hiding in the shadows and rooftops, being ninja-like. It&#8217;s more my style. Of course, give me an Iron Man type suit and i&#8217;d be in hog heaven LOL</p>
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		<title>By: batman101</title>
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		<dc:creator>batman101</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 14:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@laserbolt 

you dont have to be a cock bout things its only a spelling mistake.</description>
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<p>you dont have to be a cock bout things its only a spelling mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: R3AP3R_78</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 04:09:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Dev...
thank you... but, no mate, I must deny that my comment was not from any textbook... which textbook would actually exist that could comment on such things? Therefore, one must deducted that all that I have said above, is indeed already my own personal standpoint. 
Having worked in the security industry for many years, and also having been activly involved in both combative arts and philosophy for over 12 years... this is in fact my standpoint. No textbook exists from which I could make such a comment as I have above. Years ago, there existed an orgainsed vigilante group called the &quot;guardian angels&quot;, and from time to time, they used to do the rounds on the streets that I worked on, [nightclub door-work], they used to patrol the trains late at night because nthere was no security and no cops, and people were getting bashed and mugged. Then the gov&#039;mnt outlawed them, said they were a  vigilante group, even though they were actually a &quot;not-for-profit&quot; security volunteers. They got kicked out, and now, all we have is cameras everywhere... so, you get mugged, bashed, raped, whatever.. and all they do now is look at the video footage afterwards and then TRY to find the culprits/s.... it&#039;s rubbish.
My standpoint on vigilantism is to found in my comment about the groups that existed during the middle ages. This was also not unlike what sherrifs did in the 1800-1900&#039;s when they made normal townfolk into deputies. 
By definition, really, if I was walking down the street and I saw someone trying to rape a woman and I stepped in and defended her, this would be an act of vigilantism... but, in the eyes of the law, because someone was in direct physical danger, as a citizen, I have the law on my side if I defend her with reasonable and proportinate force to the threat. If I use too much force... more than required.. than I can get done by the law for being excesive. In her eyes, I&#039;m a good samaritan, in the eyes of the law, I become the agressor by using excessive force.... when does it stop being neccessary, and become &quot;excessive&quot;? I once hit a guy with a bar stool. He was 6&#039;5&quot; easy, and 140kg+... I&#039;m 5&#039;9&quot; and 80kg... sure, I could have tried all sorts of stuff like jujitsu grapples and the like, but, in reality, he had a chick up against the wall with his hand around her throat and her knickers in his other hand... at that size and in the dire immediate threat that the lady was in, I saw the only reasonable and proportionate response was to put him down as quick as possible. Hence the bar stool. 

No thanks to mass media and movies... it is now widely excepted that a vigilante is often confused with an organised crimefighter that is not the appointed law enforcement agencies.... 
when in reality, a vigilante is anyone who, either through being a visual [or physical] deterant, stops or negates the act of injustice upon innocent civillians. 
Technically speaking, even if you were dressed like the punisher, but had no weapons so to speak of, it would be completely legal. You could have a 1000 people dressed like batman/punisher etc and as long as they weren&#039;t carrying any weapons, they would be free to walk around as they pleased, and in effect hopefully deter criminals from performing acts of violence. 
However, if a citizen/civillian witnesses someone purpetrating an indictable offence [punishable by imprisonment] eg. B &amp; E, assult and battery, rape, stealing etc, you have the right to attempt to make a citizens arrest or defend whoever neccessary with reasonable and proportiante force.
The legal rammifications for any type of action can be huge if it is not approached in the correct manner. But, I feel there is a need for good samaritan groups to be on the streets. Sure, A single good samaritan often gets his ass kicked [as you sometimes read in the paper] but if you had a group of 10 rock up on the train platform, any potential mugger would think twice, purely from the visual presence of these &#039;good samaritans&#039; LOL

Anyway, that&#039;s my spheel....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Dev&#8230;<br />
thank you&#8230; but, no mate, I must deny that my comment was not from any textbook&#8230; which textbook would actually exist that could comment on such things? Therefore, one must deducted that all that I have said above, is indeed already my own personal standpoint.<br />
Having worked in the security industry for many years, and also having been activly involved in both combative arts and philosophy for over 12 years&#8230; this is in fact my standpoint. No textbook exists from which I could make such a comment as I have above. Years ago, there existed an orgainsed vigilante group called the &#8220;guardian angels&#8221;, and from time to time, they used to do the rounds on the streets that I worked on, [nightclub door-work], they used to patrol the trains late at night because nthere was no security and no cops, and people were getting bashed and mugged. Then the gov&#8217;mnt outlawed them, said they were a  vigilante group, even though they were actually a &#8220;not-for-profit&#8221; security volunteers. They got kicked out, and now, all we have is cameras everywhere&#8230; so, you get mugged, bashed, raped, whatever.. and all they do now is look at the video footage afterwards and then TRY to find the culprits/s&#8230;. it&#8217;s rubbish.<br />
My standpoint on vigilantism is to found in my comment about the groups that existed during the middle ages. This was also not unlike what sherrifs did in the 1800-1900&#8242;s when they made normal townfolk into deputies.<br />
By definition, really, if I was walking down the street and I saw someone trying to rape a woman and I stepped in and defended her, this would be an act of vigilantism&#8230; but, in the eyes of the law, because someone was in direct physical danger, as a citizen, I have the law on my side if I defend her with reasonable and proportinate force to the threat. If I use too much force&#8230; more than required.. than I can get done by the law for being excesive. In her eyes, I&#8217;m a good samaritan, in the eyes of the law, I become the agressor by using excessive force&#8230;. when does it stop being neccessary, and become &#8220;excessive&#8221;? I once hit a guy with a bar stool. He was 6&#8217;5&#8243; easy, and 140kg+&#8230; I&#8217;m 5&#8217;9&#8243; and 80kg&#8230; sure, I could have tried all sorts of stuff like jujitsu grapples and the like, but, in reality, he had a chick up against the wall with his hand around her throat and her knickers in his other hand&#8230; at that size and in the dire immediate threat that the lady was in, I saw the only reasonable and proportionate response was to put him down as quick as possible. Hence the bar stool. </p>
<p>No thanks to mass media and movies&#8230; it is now widely excepted that a vigilante is often confused with an organised crimefighter that is not the appointed law enforcement agencies&#8230;.<br />
when in reality, a vigilante is anyone who, either through being a visual [or physical] deterant, stops or negates the act of injustice upon innocent civillians.<br />
Technically speaking, even if you were dressed like the punisher, but had no weapons so to speak of, it would be completely legal. You could have a 1000 people dressed like batman/punisher etc and as long as they weren&#8217;t carrying any weapons, they would be free to walk around as they pleased, and in effect hopefully deter criminals from performing acts of violence.<br />
However, if a citizen/civillian witnesses someone purpetrating an indictable offence [punishable by imprisonment] eg. B &amp; E, assult and battery, rape, stealing etc, you have the right to attempt to make a citizens arrest or defend whoever neccessary with reasonable and proportiante force.<br />
The legal rammifications for any type of action can be huge if it is not approached in the correct manner. But, I feel there is a need for good samaritan groups to be on the streets. Sure, A single good samaritan often gets his ass kicked [as you sometimes read in the paper] but if you had a group of 10 rock up on the train platform, any potential mugger would think twice, purely from the visual presence of these &#8216;good samaritans&#8217; LOL</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my spheel&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: devmister</title>
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		<dc:creator>devmister</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 03:23:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>exellent comment,but you were just restating a textbook, i&#039;m asking what your personal standpoint on vigilantism (superheroes) in todays society</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>exellent comment,but you were just restating a textbook, i&#8217;m asking what your personal standpoint on vigilantism (superheroes) in todays society</p>
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		<title>By: R3AP3R_78</title>
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		<dc:creator>R3AP3R_78</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 11 May 2010 02:40:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Laserbolt....

and anyone else who has a brain... =P

It has occured to me that we are heading for a modern &quot;dark age&quot;. Think about it. You ask someone under the age of 30 who Napoleon Bonaparte was and they shrug their shoulders and look blankly at you. It&#039;s obvious, with all these BS reality shows and Iphones and I-this and I-that... that all the human race is interested in now is being entertained. No-one wants to learn anymore. We want to be entertained, and we want it yesterday. No-one is prepared to work towards something, let-alone self-development and human potential. The greatest weapon one possesses is their BRAIN! 
I mean, come on people... we sit in our houses watching people sitting in their houses [big brother]. Then there&#039;s actually the big brother complex itself.. there&#039;s megaphones and cameras on the streets in UK.. someone drops a piece of rubbish and they have a security monitor telling them to pick it up over the loud speaker! 
Read George Orwell&#039;s &quot;1984&quot; or even better... watch the movie [dvd] [if you don&#039;t read.. like so many others out there]... but it&#039;s already happening in some places around the world. North Korea is a prime example. 
But, I kid you not guys, we are heading for a social meltdown. We live in a time where enforcement agencies use Tasers as compliance weapons instead of self-defense weapons. The not-to-far-away reality is, that we may indeed be headed towards a period of civil unrest. If this occurs, we may have no option but to convert back to the old methodology of &quot;vigilanty groups&quot; that were responsible for protecting villagers back in the middle ages.

Having said that, if I had to answer Dev&#039;s hypothetical question... I&#039;d probably style myself off the Punisher, but with batman type armored suit. Off course. One cannot be a vigilanty in todays society without becoming an outlaw. That&#039;s the catch 22 so to speak. Once you take the law into your own hands.... you can kiss your freedom goodbye. That&#039;s the problem with today... yes, sure, you can defend yourself with &quot;reasonable proportion to the threat&quot;... [legal stuff] but, you can&#039;t go out kicking peoples asses because they&#039;re bad. That&#039;s when you get the whole &quot;you can&#039;t take the law into your own hands&quot; BS. Well, that&#039;s great... yeah, we have &#039;bloods&#039; and &#039;crips&#039; and &#039;gangbangers&#039; running around bashing and killing people for their wallets, phones, and shoes, but the cops can&#039;t touch em because most of them are underage. All that&#039;s needed is to make an example of the ringleaders so that the younger ones that follow are so scared they no longer desire to be involved in crime. 
From a tactical standpoint, there is no way to realistically fight everyone, so this psychological intimidation is the only tactic I can think of that would actually yeild results. The main problem is, that the number of serious organised criminals far outways the number of enforcement people, so there will always be crims who get away with stuff, unless of course, the people that fight injustice are greater than those that impose injustice.

Needless to say of course... THIS IS ALL JUST HYPOTHETICAL! A lesson in human sociology maybe? hahaha
Again.. I cannot stress enough, how much this crimefighting talk is purely hypothetical. Although, my comments on social collapse I feel are rather realistic and based on educated judgements.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Laserbolt&#8230;.</p>
<p>and anyone else who has a brain&#8230; =P</p>
<p>It has occured to me that we are heading for a modern &#8220;dark age&#8221;. Think about it. You ask someone under the age of 30 who Napoleon Bonaparte was and they shrug their shoulders and look blankly at you. It&#8217;s obvious, with all these BS reality shows and Iphones and I-this and I-that&#8230; that all the human race is interested in now is being entertained. No-one wants to learn anymore. We want to be entertained, and we want it yesterday. No-one is prepared to work towards something, let-alone self-development and human potential. The greatest weapon one possesses is their BRAIN!<br />
I mean, come on people&#8230; we sit in our houses watching people sitting in their houses [big brother]. Then there&#8217;s actually the big brother complex itself.. there&#8217;s megaphones and cameras on the streets in UK.. someone drops a piece of rubbish and they have a security monitor telling them to pick it up over the loud speaker!<br />
Read George Orwell&#8217;s &#8220;1984&#8243; or even better&#8230; watch the movie [dvd] [if you don't read.. like so many others out there]&#8230; but it&#8217;s already happening in some places around the world. North Korea is a prime example.<br />
But, I kid you not guys, we are heading for a social meltdown. We live in a time where enforcement agencies use Tasers as compliance weapons instead of self-defense weapons. The not-to-far-away reality is, that we may indeed be headed towards a period of civil unrest. If this occurs, we may have no option but to convert back to the old methodology of &#8220;vigilanty groups&#8221; that were responsible for protecting villagers back in the middle ages.</p>
<p>Having said that, if I had to answer Dev&#8217;s hypothetical question&#8230; I&#8217;d probably style myself off the Punisher, but with batman type armored suit. Off course. One cannot be a vigilanty in todays society without becoming an outlaw. That&#8217;s the catch 22 so to speak. Once you take the law into your own hands&#8230;. you can kiss your freedom goodbye. That&#8217;s the problem with today&#8230; yes, sure, you can defend yourself with &#8220;reasonable proportion to the threat&#8221;&#8230; [legal stuff] but, you can&#8217;t go out kicking peoples asses because they&#8217;re bad. That&#8217;s when you get the whole &#8220;you can&#8217;t take the law into your own hands&#8221; BS. Well, that&#8217;s great&#8230; yeah, we have &#8216;bloods&#8217; and &#8216;crips&#8217; and &#8216;gangbangers&#8217; running around bashing and killing people for their wallets, phones, and shoes, but the cops can&#8217;t touch em because most of them are underage. All that&#8217;s needed is to make an example of the ringleaders so that the younger ones that follow are so scared they no longer desire to be involved in crime.<br />
From a tactical standpoint, there is no way to realistically fight everyone, so this psychological intimidation is the only tactic I can think of that would actually yeild results. The main problem is, that the number of serious organised criminals far outways the number of enforcement people, so there will always be crims who get away with stuff, unless of course, the people that fight injustice are greater than those that impose injustice.</p>
<p>Needless to say of course&#8230; THIS IS ALL JUST HYPOTHETICAL! A lesson in human sociology maybe? hahaha<br />
Again.. I cannot stress enough, how much this crimefighting talk is purely hypothetical. Although, my comments on social collapse I feel are rather realistic and based on educated judgements.</p>
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